People can't park

"Thomas Donohue" (tomonomics) 10/15/2019 at 09:03 • Filed to: None

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Approx 90% of all drivers have no idea where the back of their car ends. Hell, some don’t know how long the front is. Which is why I hate when people try to ‘pull through’ a double spot. Never mind that they are sometimes facing the wrong direction on angled spots.

You can barely even see the painted white line here, because almost everyone is between a foot or three feet over it. I’ve drawn a red line just in case.

This lot is like this all the time.  Pull-through people are the worst.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 09:19

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False equivalence fallacy.  Pull through parkers aren’t the worst; the people parking in this lot are the worst.  I have never seen a cluster like that in any parking lot I have ever been to.  The red Camry is so far off that it’s reprehensible they didn’t notice and fix it.

Aremmes > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 09:21

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Pitiful, but not something to get angery about. Something like this, though, deserves a keying.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 09:24

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Need a laser. Or a can of white paint. ;)

Thomas Donohue > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 10/15/2019 at 09:29

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Pull- through- parkers are six times more likely to be outside/over the lines than people who just pull into a parking spot like humans. Fact.

Pull-through-parkers are the worst, with this lot being far and away the worst of the worst. At least 20% of cars are not within their spaces every time I go there. 

All pull through parkers think  they know where the back of their car ends. They don’t.  This only gets worse with parking sensors and backup cameras, which are useless in the PTP scenario.

Nibby > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 09:30

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put this on the camry’s windshield

MM54 > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 09:37

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You’ve put a yellow scribble over the primary problem: these are people who live in new jersey.

Secondary problem is that a majority of people operating a motor vehicle have absolutely no business doing so; people who pull through directional parking are a subset of that.

Thomas Donohue > MM54 10/15/2019 at 09:42

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Agreed on both points. Also, they can’t even pull in forward to an angled spot. Most are over the line no matter which way they pull in. “ Those lines aren’t straight, I don’t see any 90 degree angles.....oh no! Just turn the car off and run! Leave it where it is.....run!!!!”

M.T. Blake > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 10:42

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TheRealBicycleBuck > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 10:42

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Alright, you went there. State the source of your “fact.”

Backup cameras are the best when used in the pull-through scenario. When I pull through, I put it in reverse to make sure I’ve pulled through far enough to clear the line.

You’re working with a limited sample size to leap to your conclusions. Here’s an example of a “ regular” parker who doesn’t know where the front end of his car ends.

I was driving the F-150 and backed into the space. The camera made it easy to snuggle up real close to the bumper that was clearly over the line. However, I normally pull through and use the camera to make sure I’m in my own spot. Pulling through is important in this lot as the lanes are narrow and there are lots of large trucks parking here. I’ve nearly been trapped in this lot when I’ve had to park nose-in. All it takes is one oversized vehicle in the opposite spot to make it nearly impossible to back out.

Thomas Donohue > TheRealBicycleBuck 10/15/2019 at 11:00

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Obviously it’s not a ‘fact’ and I’m ranting, but the need to put your car in reverse to see if you’re in the spot is exactly my point. You don’t know where the back of your vehicle is b y experience, or by using your mirrors.

Just pull in to the first spot. S top ‘pulling through’.

Tripper > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 11:04

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That looks like a lot where I would drive through thinking “nope” as I contemplate another lot in which to park.

Thomas Donohue > Tripper 10/15/2019 at 11:14

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I usually park at the end of the lot, or find the least-worst car that is pulled in appropriately.  At least I know they will see my car when they return.  Pull through parkers might throw it in reverse.

Tripper > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 11:18

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There is a building behind ours that uses 10% of their lot. I strolled in one day after a run and asked if they would mind if I parked in their lot when ours was “un-inviting”. They wanted the details  on the cars and me, but are super cool about it!

They even called to let me know that they were having construction done on the building so I might not want to park any of the cars there during it.

Thomas Donohue > Tripper 10/15/2019 at 11:22

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That would be $300 month around here, and you would not get a call even if they were repaving the lot!

Tripper > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 11:41

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It’s the same here but this building is weird, which is why I targeted it. You can’t get to it from a main road, you have to meander through two other corporate center parking lots to get to it. You could park 100 cars or more in their lot and there are usually less than 10. It’s a little E-Charter school company, they own the building which I guess is why they stay there.

Urambo Tauro > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 11:58

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Which is why I hate when people try to ‘pull through’ a double spot... sometimes facing the wrong direction on angled spots.

There’s almost NO point in pulling through when parking is angled. I know of ONE parking lot in my area where the aisles between the angled spots are two-way aisles. The vast majority of these angled parking lots, however, are all one-way aisles, and pulling through yields zero benefit. You either end up going the wrong way down the one-way aisle, or you have to make a sharp 120° turn out of your parking space. It’s stupid. Just use it the way it was designed!

Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness > MM54 10/15/2019 at 12:07

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a majority of people operating a motor vehicle have absolutely no business doing so

This is the biggest problem by far.

Thomas Donohue > Urambo Tauro 10/15/2019 at 12:14

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If only we didn’t have to plow our lots....we could use these!

TheRealBicycleBuck > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 16:49

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There are many reasons to pull through. First, parking back-in is safer . By pulling through, my vehicle is back-in without me having to reverse into the spot. That alone makes pulling through safer. By being back-in, I am safer when leaving since I don’t have to back out of the spot . Second, as I pointed out earlier, it’s easy to get trapped in a spot because of so many big vehicles parking in a tight lot. Being parked back-in  makes it easier to exit from the spot and it lowers the risk of hitting a parked car, crossing traffic, or a pedestrian. Third, I drive a lot of rental vehicles. While this may not be the case for everybody, many people drive vehicles they aren’t familiar with at least occasionally. They aren’t going to be familiar with either the front or the back, so pulling through is a much safer way for them to get that back-in position without the added risk of backing a car with which they aren’t familiar.

Thomas Donohue > TheRealBicycleBuck 10/15/2019 at 17:03

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You are justifying pull-through- parking by the end result, which is Forward first/back in parking. Yes, backing into a spot when parking is safer, as you are backing into a known space (hopefully empty) and you don’t have to back out into traffic, or an unknown space.

Pulling through a spot - one which may have someone properly pulling into it ( or backing into it ) while they expect it to be empty - is not safer.

Needless to say, pull-through-parking in an angled lot (as pictured above) is even less safe.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 17:16

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I didn’t notice your lot is angled parking. Pulling through there is a bad idea simply because the angled parking indicates directional flow through the lanes and pulling through means you are parked at the wrong angle for the flow of traffic.

I can easily spot it i n the exceedingly rare instance when someone is trying to back into a spot where I’m trying to pull through. It’s easy because it’s happening right in front of me, not behind me. In the one time that’s happened to me (in over 30 years of driving), I simply yielded the space to them since they were backing in.

Urambo Tauro > Thomas Donohue 10/15/2019 at 18:57

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We have those at work, but only by the main building’s front sidewalk, not in the rest of the parking lot . Apparently it’s the only way to keep people who like to p ark-by-feel from   blocking half of the sidewalk with their car’s front (or sometimes rear) overhang.